palin. you know, people know that this has been a successful businessman and occasionally successful politician throughout his career, so this is somebody that they expect a decent performance from. they expect that this guy could go in front of a bunch of investors or shareholders and could deliver a pitch. if he doesn't meet that expectation, then, you know, then that's trouble for him. however to answer liz's question in 2002 when he ran for governor he was struggling and he was able to bait his opponent to kind of aggressively attack him in a way in the debates that didn't play well for her. they had tested that ahead of time. you know, there's some sexism behind the whole -- behind that card. it worked for them. after those debates he kind of cruised into the governor's mansion. >> i guess, eeric, maybe not a guess, everyone is concerned about appearing smug or overly confident, maybe this debate will be kind of the most sparkless debate we've seen yet, because there's so much sort of p